Should We Stock Up on Incandescent Bulbs?

by Katie on January 9, 2012

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source: P. Gordon

I’m pretty sure we vacuumed when we broke a long, evil-looking fluorescent tube light in our basement about five years ago.

It was a massive shatter, flinging glass and toxins far and wide.

We had a toddler in the house, so naturally, I nearly had a heart attack when I realized what happened.

“[Husband], get out of that room. No, don’t come out here, take your socks off first! We can’t track that stuff through the house. We have to clean it up! No, don’t touch anything, I need to figure out how…”

I Googled how to properly clean up a fluorescent bulb breakage, but apparently I didn’t do a very good job, because everything I see about proper clean up of mercury-containing light bulbs nowadays clearly says, “Don’t vacuum.” Want to know why? It sends toxic mercury dust flying through the air. Lovely.

More importantly, why am I thinking of this scene this month?

I admit, I’m worried about the new law going into effect that is phasing out the incandescent bulbs of our childhood and replacing them with compact fluorescent bulbs (CFLs).

Incandescent vs. Compact Fluorescent Bulbs

source: James Bowe

Incandescent bulbs basically still operate in the same way as when Thomas Edison designed them – the classic glass light bulb shape, the fragile filament, and the massive inefficiency: for the last 125 years, 90% of the energy sent to those bulbs has been wasted because only 10% is converted to actual light. If I had something in my house that was 90% inefficient, I’d want to get rid of it, too.

Compact fluorescent bulbs, on the other hand, work with the same basic physics (chemistry?) of incandescents, but instead of the filament, it’s mercury and argon gasses that get excited and release light. (More here.)

New Energy Law in Effect

source: Kevin Gessner

The energy independence and security act of 2007 (the “energy bill”) intends to “make better use of our resources and help the United States become energy independent. The law provides important benefits to consumers, industry, our country, and our environment,” says the EPA. It was signed by George W. Bush on December 18, 2007 (it’s actually a red flag to see legislation pushed through just before Christmas when no one is paying attention to politics) and went into effect on January first of this year. From this point forward, no new bulbs over 72 watts may be produced.

The law does NOT say that incandescent bulbs must be eliminated, which is how it felt like it was coming across in the media. It DOES require any type of bulb to use at least 27% less energy, which translates into regular incandescent bulbs not measuring up.

CFLs (compact fluorescent bulbs), halogen incandescents, and LED lights will all pass the new standards, but CFLs are the most mainstream available and getting the most press. Specialty globes and 3-way bulbs are exempt from the law.

Advantages of CFLs

source: Paul Keller

In the history of lighting, CFLs are fairy new on the scene, and they were immediately touted as an energy-saving miracle. Within a few years of their widespread popularity, their true “green” nature was questioned, but it’s no joke that they have some serious advantages over incandescent bulbs:

  1. Nearly all components of the bulb can be recycled (and should be – here’s how)
  2. CFLs use far less energy to light a room than the old style of bulb – about 75% less
  3. CFLs are said to last far longer than an incandescent bulb – up to 10 times longer
  4. Although the initial cost of a CFL is high, the combination of energy savings and longer life should allow you to save money in the long run

Disadvantages of CFLs

source: Paul Keller

There’s always another side to the story. CFLs have had a tenuous reception among Americans, some of whom take issue with:

  1. Light quality: Fluorescent lights have a different spectrum than incandescents, generally looking much “cooler” and sometimes having a slight flickering. Newer bulbs are getting better at mimicking warm light, though, with certainly more improvements to come.
  2. Delay in full strength brightness: It takes 30 seconds to 3 minutes for a CFL to “warm up” and get going fully, which means you experience lower light when you first enter a room.
  3. Inefficiency in short time locations: A fluorescent bulb runs best when it is on at least 15 minutes at a time. In hallways, mud rooms, closets, and other places where one might only need illumination for a few minutes, it always stresses me out knowing that I’m not using my bulb effectively.
  4. Expense: CFLs cost considerably more than the old style bulbs.
  5. CFLs don’t dim well: The older CFLs simply refuse to dim, preferring to buzz annoyingly and stay at full strength light instead. You can buy special “dimmable” bulbs now, but they are more expensive than the normal ones and complicate your bulb buying with one more thing to think about.
  6. CFLs aren’t supposed to be in enclosed areas indoors: My husband just installed a CFL in our outdoor light fixture, which is of course fully encased in glass. He came in saying, “You know, this box says not to install in an enclosed area, so I probably shouldn’t have done that…”A Google search taught us the truth: CFLs are sensitive to extreme temperatures, so they should actually be in open fixtures indoors but closed fixtures outdoors in colder climates. Using them in enclosed fixtures indoors can create a hot environment that reduces the lifetime of your bulbs. (source: EnergyStar.gov) I think they need to include more information on the packaging! What are we supposed to do about indoor globe lights and other enclosed bulb relics from the 80s?
  7. CFLs aren’t always living up to the “long life” claims: Our home has experienced CFL burnouts well before the expected nine-year life span. In a normal use area, the kitchen, and in open fixtures, a couple bulbs died after just 1-3 years. We still had the packaging, but getting a refund was more trouble than the few dollars were worth.Ultimately, the integrity of the product was much more important to us than the money. I’ve read many other reports of CFLs missing their mark, which begins to negate some of the financial and environmental advantages.

And in other news, there are reports of potential health hazards with CFLs, most of which are controversial:

  1. They emit UV light and electromagnetic radiation – which basically means you have to make a judgment call on (a) whether you think either of those is harmful, (b) whether you believe that the amounts are low enough not to cause a problem, and ultimately (c) how close you’ll let a CFL get to your head while it’s on.
  2. They might cause cancer or migraines – as recently as April 2011, the Washington Times op ed blog reported on a study linking CFLs to breast cancer, altered melatonin levels, and migraines. Then again, the sources here and herethat attack CFLs for their massive health risks with a list of a dozen maladies caused by the bulbs get me nervous – but they lose credibility in my view by sourcing lightly and using propaganda.For example, when the EPA wants to prove the amount of mercury in CFLs is very little, they say it contains as much mercury as the tip of a ballpoint pen or a single meal of fish. When a website wants to talk about CFLs causing cancer and being packed with toxic chemicals, they describe the sameamount of mercury as enough to “contaminate 6,000 gallons of water and in humans to impair motor functioning, cognitive ability and emotional stability.”Speaking of mercury…
  3. CFLs definitely take some heat because they include mercury,which is linked to all sorts of learning disabilities, brain damage and other diseases. The question becomes: what is the risk to the average American and how does it measure up to the incandescent bulbs?The amount of mercury in CFLs has decreased dramatically since their inception, and is down to somewhere between 0.4-4 mg, depending on the source. Even on the high end, that’s only 0.5-1% of the mercury in a single silver dental filling.However, the State of Maine reports that one broken CFL can exceed U.S. Federal guidelines for mercury exposure, particularly if it’s broken on carpet. Carpet mercury cleanup is difficult, and vacuuming weeks later still causes a mercury cloud, concentrated at the breathing height of a toddler. Is it too dangerous to bring that amount of mercury into your home, and are we going to fill our landfills with mercury from fluorescent bulbs disposed of improperly?

Mercury Counterpoint

At one point in my research for this article, I was convinced that my trepidation about the new law was hasty, and that CFLs were a good thing for our environment and our nation. I read a number of articles with this information: It turns out that a CFL’s mercury contribution to the ecosystem is actually less than an incandescent bulb when energy use is taken into account.
The EPA estimates the U.S. is responsible for the release of 104 metric tons of mercury emissions each year. Most of these emissions come from coal-fired electrical power. Mercury released into the air is the main way that mercury gets into water and bio-accumulates in fish. (Eating fish contaminated with mercury is the main way for humans to be exposed.)

Most mercury vapor inside fluorescent light bulbs becomes bound to the inside of the light bulb as it is used. EPA estimates that the rest of the mercury within a CFL – about 14 percent – is released into air or water when it is sent to a landfill, assuming the light bulb is broken. Therefore, if all 290 million CFLs sold in 2007 were sent to a landfill (versus recycled, as a worst case) – they would add 0.16 metric tons, or 0.16 percent, to U.S. mercury emissions caused by humans.

How do CFLs result in less mercury in the environment compared to traditional light bulbs?

Electricity use is the main source of mercury emissions in the U.S. CFLs use less electricity than incandescent lights, meaning CFLs reduce the amount of mercury into the environment. As shown in the table below, a 13-watt, 8,000-rated-hour-life CFL (60-watt equivalent; a common light bulb type) will save 376 kWh over its lifetime, thus avoiding 4.5 mg of mercury. If the bulb goes to a landfill, overall emissions savings would drop a little, to 4.0 mg. EPA recommends that CFLs are recycled where possible, to maximize mercury savings.

Source: See graphic charts of the comparison HERE.

Lifetime Analysis of CFLs

I found myself wondering whether CFLs take more energy or produce more toxic waste in production than incandescents. It was a tough question to answer, until I found this guy’s analysis of the entire lifetime of a CFL:

Over their full lifetime, a compact fluorescent light bulb will consume 3.9 times less energy than an incandescent bulb. Although CFL’s contain mercury themselves, their actual operation will introduce less mercury into the atmosphere than incandescent bulbs due to the fact that coal power plants spew out mercury. If your CFL bulb lasts longer than 50hrs, then they will indeed save energy over their entire lifecycle.

His science is convincing, until you read this scientist‘s rebuttal, where he posits that just because 90% of the energy put into an incandescent bulb does not turn into light also does not mean it is wasted. It becomes heat, which in turn reduces the heat needed to keep a house warm. In cooler climates, the net energy loss is between 0-50%, not 90%. (Warmer climates are obviously a problem.) He does some fancy math and determines that a CFL is approximately two times better than an incandescent bulb, not the 5-10 times claimed.

Another area of energy use to consider is the shipping of CFLs. Many light bulb factories in the U.S. have closed their doors, because making CFLs is much cheaper in China.

And the Chinese factory workers are coming down with – guess what? – mercury poisoning.

Mercury Waste

There’s also the problem of dead bulb disposal with mercury: although recycling CFLs is becoming easier and is even mandated in some states, it doesn’t mean that the general population will understand the importance of recycling. It’s likely that a great deal of mercury will be traveling in garbage trucks and resting in landfills for the next bazillion years (sorry, I didn’t look up the official figure).

When your CFL bulb burns out, be sure to recycle it – look for receptacles at most major hardware stores, Ikea, and even some mail-in options.

Why Some Folks Are Hoarding Old Light Bulbs

Some Americans are opposed to the new law, whether on the grounds of health uncertainties with CFLs, a rebellion against the perception that government is telling them what to do, or just because they own Easy-Bake Ovens, which rely on the 100-watt incandescent bulbs for heat. I was tempted to join them, but realized I need to know all the information first.

CFLs: Are They for You?

source: Dano

For some folks, the bottom line becomes the difference between what’s best for the earth in general and their personal air quality. Plugging in a CFL is inviting that mercury into your home, where it directly affects the lungs and bodies of your loved ones before it can dissipate into the environment as a whole.

When I consider how often a ball or other flying object has hit lamps in our house – our tattered lampshades are testament to the total – I wonder if a lamp in a living room or little boy’s room is really where I want light bulbs that are toxic when broken. As much as I became convinced that a CFL break might be no big deal and that they really are better for the environment, I’m still disappointed that they will be hard to avoid in the coming years.

What Will the Options Be?

Again, the law does not mandate CFLs only. There are other lighting options that will fit within the new wattage requirements.

  • LED lights, which will cost about $20/bulb but could pay for themselves in energy savings within a year. They also contain lead, and because they’re so new, naturally long-term studies are a bit hard to come by.
  • CFL bulbs with built-in “armor” to protect mercury from being released into the home even if the bulb breaks, rather pricey
  • 72-watt halogen incandescent bulbs, which give off light equal to a 100-watt bulb and cost about $2 per bulb, saving $3 per bulb in electricity.
  • Reflector lamps, also a more efficient incandescent technology mostly used in flood lights and spotlights

I began researching this topic because I felt the legislature had made a knee-jerk reaction with the pre-Christmas passage of the Energy Bill and wondered many things about CFLs: were they safe in all fixtures, would the build-up of mercury be a problem, do they really last as long as they claim, and are they really a greener option? Would this law simply be an official “greenwashing” tactic (and was there corporate money behind it)?

I guess in the end, I’m pleasantly surprised with the results of the research. Not only is mercury and CFLs slightly less of a concern for the environment overall than I thought, but with the other options, all we have to do is be as educated as we can, and we still have a choice for those pesky areas the CFLs don’t seem to complement.

Hopefully, there will be no reason to hoard the older incandescent bulbs as this law moves through its paces…unless you want a relic from your childhood to fascinate your kids, much like the old 8-track player in my parents’ living room.

What kind of bulb do you prefer? Do you appreciate or question the new law?

Katie Kimball is a mom of three who spends a ton of time in the kitchen making real food with whole ingredients and then blogs about her successes and failures at Kitchen Stewardship. She believes everything in life is a gift from God and should be taken care of wisely.

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  • http://www.theanatomyofahome.blogspot.com Morgan

    I’m not outrightly opposed to the CFLs but I do think that the amount of mercury in them is of concern. It’s one of those things where the majority of people could handle that level of exposure with minimal consequence {although I believe it would tax even the healthiest of us over time}, but it can act as the proverbial piece of straw for others. I’ve seen the damage of environmental toxins & heavy metal build  and it’s not pretty {nor easy to reverse}. Unfortunately, it’s hard to tell how this sort of exposure is effecting us until we’ve exceeded our body’s threshold to tolerate such poison(s). Having a toddler and being heavily pregnant I’m cautious to say the least. I broke my first CFL bulb a few months ago and found out first hand what I knew all along: the stress of the darn things breaking are NOT worth the energy savings to me {at least not in this season of life; maybe once the kiddos are old & gone I’ll reconsider}.

    • Jen

      Totally agree: “The stress of the darn things breaking are NOT worth the energy savings to me.”

  • http://www.morethanmundane.com/ Krissajeldy

    Wow…so much great information here. I have to admit, I’ve never considered all of this, so your post is definitely giving me lots to think about. Thanks!

  • Aleighanne

    I noticed I started having really bad headaches and more sensitivity to  regular 
     fluorescent lights so much so that now when I go in a store I have to wear sunglasses or I start getting eyestrain and headaches. 

    • http://twitter.com/kitchenstew Katie Kimball

      Yikes, that’s scary, Aleighanne. Thank goodness there are other options beyond CFLs, but if I were you, I’d be hoarding incandescents just in case. ;) Katie

  • Jonathon

    Ok, first let me commend you on the amount of information you were able to compile.  There’s a ton in this post.  Second, from what I’ve heard, there is more mercury released into the atmosphere via the production of electricity used in incandescent light bulbs than there is in any CFL.   Hands down, I appreciate the new law, but I also think we need to approach the new choices with as much criticism as we do  any other health/safety item and hopefully, make those new products less potentially harmful and less environmentally taxing.

  • Jonathon

    After re-reading your post, I did notice that you included the mercury counterpoint.  I missed it the first time through.

    • http://twitter.com/kitchenstew Katie Kimball

      I guess I really did include a lot of info! ;) Katie

  • Kathleen K

    Great research, and it does relieve the “stress” caused by using mercury laden bulbs in a house with 3 rowdy boys. (Who, thankfully, have never broken one of those things…yet…) BUT here’s my thing: WHO gave the GOVERNMENT the right to tell me what kind of bulbs I can/should use. I use CFL’s voluntarily (after all, we live in TX, where any bulb that produces LESS heat is welcome). But being told I mustn’t use incandescent…I suggest we stop the dictatorship of the government and allow inventors/businesses to INVENT A BETTER BULB. When they do, it’ll sell. Without the government telling us what to buy.

  • Sharon Collins

    I think this law is crazy. The light is horrible to do needlework or reading. Mine have ended up in a landfill because no one in my small town was taking them. I was excited by the thought of saving energy but with the new bulbs in my home the cost was not showing up on my bills. The cost is extremely hard on those with fixed incomes, for people who want to be able to see the incandescent bulb is my favorite. I like the three watt bulbs because I can see to read & lower for tv. Also all my lamps are the three way. My husband replaces the bulbs more often for the new bulbs more often than the old ones. So I wish the Bush presidency had kept the business here in the states & kept there nose out of my business. Next talk about the new electric meters for “smart keeping”.

    • http://twitter.com/kitchenstew Katie Kimball

      Sharon,
      Hopefully the newer bulbs will give a better light for working…but I know, such a new technology, mandated. Kind of scary. Thanks for commenting- Katie

  • lucy

    I work in an unheated, uninsulated metal building, 74′ by 114′. In Minnesota winters, the recommended CFLs barely glow, much less produce a workable amount of light. The only suggestion I have been able to get was to heat the building so the CFLs work. Energy savings?

    • http://twitter.com/kitchenstew Katie Kimball

      Lucy,
      Would regular fluorescents work? In industrial situations, it doesn’t seem like you’d need compact bulbs, but rather long tubes. ???  :) Katie

  • augustgirl

    A shockingly large number of our CFL bulbs have given out after 1-3 MONTHS! I can’t put up with that when they cost so much more than regular bulbs. Also, the dim, flickering, weird colored light gives me eyestrain headaches. 

    • Jenny

      Ours too!! I have never had a CFL last more than a year, but some of the incandescents that were in our house when we moved in 4 years ago are still going strong. I don’t know how kong they were there previously. (and I’ve noticed that our electricity bill has actually gone UP because our heater is on more. ) Also agree on the headaches/eyestrain issues. It’s terrible.

    • http://twitter.com/kitchenstew Katie Kimball

      Phew! That’s worth returning, for sure – did you keep the packaging? They do burn out faster when turned on and off a lot, so leaving them on, even if you leave the room for anything less than 15 minutes, is best practice.  :) Katie

  • http://www.6packsdiet.com/ Albin

    This is the best article I have seen on CFLs. I appreciate all your comments on this controversial issue.  Personally, I think that there should not be any law about what kind of light bulb to use or not to use.  Some people will want one type and others will want the other. Let the people choose.  We have way to many laws trying to tell us how to live our lives.  Let the people choose for them selves.

  • http://articles.earthlingshandbook.org/ Becca

    Thanks for compiling all this info in one place!

    I have been transitioning to CFLs since they became available in local stores about 12 years ago.  They have improved noticeably in both quality and price since then.  Although I am prone to migraines and sensitive to light quality, I do not have any more trouble with CFL light than incandescent light.  My favorite thing about them is the convenience of being able to go several years without changing a light bulb. 

    About the breakage: CFLs are a lot more durable than incandescents.  I have never broken a CFL, despite occasionally dropping one or knocking over a lamp, whereas I’ve had incandescents shatter in my hand as I tried to screw them into a socket.  I’ve also had incandescents that were ruined without ever being used because they were bumped and the filament broke.  So although CFLs are more dangerous if they do break, I see them as less risky and a better value overall.

  • Judi

    I am a hoarder.  :o )  I have not liked the CFL’s since they came out.  They don’t last very long in our home.  Definitely under a year, and at the price they are, I can’t afford to buy them so often.  I get headaches from them.  Thanks for your research, Katie! 

  • http://www.tangreen.net/ Tan

    LED have been around since the 60′s and as far as I know there have been no health risks posed.  The color temp is far more like incandescent light and easy to live with.  They diode don’t require warm up time or cycling to get to full intensity so they are more likely to live up to the long life claims…much much longer life than CFL.  They are hard to break as well since there are many small plastic diode not one large glass envelope.  In my anguish over the demise of the incandescent I have been happy with the LED option…thanks for this great summary!

    • Pat C

      I agree with Tan.  I think the new LED lights are getting better.  We switched a CFL in our bathroom to and LED that looks more like a regular light bulb and I think the color and light output is so much better.  We also replaced our outdoor Christmas lights this year with LED–the color isn’t quite the same as the neighbor’s regular lights but it also didn’t blow our breaker switch like the old Christmas lights did.  Definitely made a convert out of me!

  • Christina P

    Thanks so much for putting all this information together for us! I’m definitely opposed to the government “mandating” (questionable word choice, I know) such a thing. This is simply not their job and even if it were their job, CFLs haven’t been around quite long enough and haven’t proven themselves quite well enough to justify this.

    Also, incandescent bulbs are quite ugly; CFLs are even uglier, in my opinion. Since they shouldn’t be “enclosed” does that mean I can’t cover them in a pretty light fixture? I guess I’ll be using one of the other options!

  • Mel

    I made the switch to CFL’s, including using the “new improved” variety. About three months ago I switched back to incandescents because:
    The light was lousy-in the bathroom it took forever to get bright enough, in the kitchen it made all my food look weird. Reading was a pain.
    They did not last. I had the same experience as a previous commenter, replacing CFL’s after a few months when regular bulbs had lasted much longer.
    No energy savings at all. Our electric bill shows us our usage for the same month in the previous year- after one year of all CFL there was no change.

  • http://roscommonacres.com/ Dana

    Oh my goodness, I am yet to have a cfl last longer than an incandescent. I think because they’re made in China and not subjected to the same kinds of standards, not to mention whatever abuse of shipping across the ocean.

    • Mary

      I don’t think I have had a cfl last longer than my incandescent bulbs.  To get a refund, both the original receipt and upc symbol are required.

  • Katey

    That was a well researched article and I appreciate your hard work. For me the entire bill, including mandates supported by “science” provided by GE just hits me in the Bad from the Beginning Bullseye! I won’t buy them and would rather end up with candlelight and eyestrain than spend one penny on a CFL.

  • Angela

    Thanks for the info. I didn’t know about the mercury & breakage – not pleased as I have young boys. Also I’m wondering if the enclosed piece is causing my cfls to burn out faster than the incandescents. I thought it was our old wiring somehow not working well with them. Shows how little I know :)

  • raanne

    I like that you mentioned that CFLs are not being mandated, just the energy efficiency of the bulbs (amount of light per watt) – essentially there are tons of bulbs out there that aren’t cfls that meet the new energy standards. The government has every right to set energy standards – especially considering that that energy use is what contributes to a lot of our polluted air. Its no different than the government regulating auto efficiency. The media has blown this out of proportion by turning it into something its not. And they’ve tried to play politics with it when the bill was bipartisan, and passed 10 years ago. Everyone knew it was coming, but didn’t get upset until the media started trying to make it an “issue”. CFLs are the same technology as the fluorescent lamps that have been in stores and offices since the 60s – the C just stands for “compact” – the tube has been twisted into a spiral to fit into the normal sockets that incandescent use. Incandescent use TONS of energy respectively, and essentially the technology hasn’t changed in a hundred years. Can you find any other technology that is used that frequently that hasn’t become more efficient in that long of a time period?

    • http://twitter.com/kitchenstew Katie Kimball

      Good point on gov’t regs of energy – I just wish there were more and more affordable options, but hopefully there will be soon. :) katie

  • Anne W.

    Thanks for this well-researched article covering the major issues involving the CFL bulbs.  It was mentioned that these bulbs may cause cancer and migraines, but did you know they can also trigger seizures.  The way I understand it, the light is produced in such a way that causes them to flicker, which is not necessarily noticable, but still registered by the brain.  I have been recently diagnosed with epilepsy and am now trying to figure out what triggers my seizures.  I am wondering if exposure to flourescent lights contributes to my seizures and migraines, but have not come to any conclusions yet.  What I’ve read suggests that regular incandescent bulbs are better for people who are photosensitive.  I’d rather use less efficient light bulbs than live around lights that make me ill.

    • http://twitter.com/kitchenstew Katie Kimball

      Anne,
      Hear, hear! “I’d rather use less efficient light bulbs than live around lights that make me ill.”
      Katie

  • Pamela

    Thank you for doing the research for me:) I had heard incandescents were being banned, and had started buying CFL’s thinking this was inevitable, but hadn’t done the research. Then last week my boys had a neighbor boy over playing and in the minute it took me to get downstairs, one of them broke a CFL bulb with a suction-cup dart. I am pregnant, and my husband was working the rest of the evening. Also, one of my sons is autistic, and autism is one of those many conditions with possible links to mercury. I looked up how to properly clean it up on the EPA’s website but since I was the only adult here I couldn’t go completely by the book for pregnant women to stay out of the room. The neighbor kid’s dad came over and cleaned it up for me, and put an incandescent bulb in for me. I am so thankful that it is an unfinished basement with a concrete floor, not carpet. I don’t think CFL’s are worth the worry and extensive cleanup if one breaks. I was going to research this, and you saved me a lot of time. I think I will look into one of the other lesser-know alternatives you mentioned. Thanks.

    • http://twitter.com/kitchenstew Katie Kimball

      Pamela,
      SO scary being pregnant, too! Gah! Yes, I’d just die if one broke on carpet, even if it’s “not all that dangerous”. Whatever. :) Katie

  • Amanda Y.

    Thanks for the unbiased research and article!!

  • Cheryl

    Great info, Katie.  I really appreciate your time and efforts to find this out and share it with the rest of us. 

    I’ll say that LED’s are sounding better and better, even if they do contain lead.  I might “hoard” a few incandescents for the children’s rooms.  We’ve had bulbs get broken in their bedrooms, and once by me!

  • Guest

    I thought I heard that the law regarding the incandescent bulbs had been pulled in the last couple of weeks (with the last ‘gotta keep the government running bill’) because of all the mercury released if a CFL is broken…I don’t remember where I read it, but it said it was enough to merit a hazmat clean up…my dad swears by LEDs…I have a couple of them, but they aren’t as bright and even one of them burnt out…guess I’ll have to do a bit more research…has anyone else heard any updates?

  • Sara

    Okay, I know this is sooooo not the point, but let’s not give momentum to the idea that boys are the only ones that rough house and break things.  They aren’t!  I wouldn’t want these in my daughter’s room any more than my son’s.

    Other than that, I’m frustrated that everything seems like one step forward, two steps back.  We put in CFLs to be environmentally and budget friendly, not fully realizing the potential health implications.  Argh!

    • http://twitter.com/kitchenstew Katie Kimball

      Good call, Sara! You are totally right that I was promoting a stereotype…sorry about that! You bet my daughter, too, could break a bulb as quickly as (or moreso?) than my sons! ;) Katie

  • Kat

    That was a great article about the pros and cons of the CFLs, but my biggest problem is the actual lighting. I get terrible eye strain and head aches when we use them. We put the newest ones in my office light fixture–I took them out after a week–the light was not strong enough and caused too much reading  and sewing discomfort. The old incandescents may not be energy efficient, but I feel a lot better physically.

  • Cass Rios

    Thanks for this article. My husband and I were just talking about light bulbs yesterday and planning on going back to the old ones for the same reasons most other commenters list (high price, no change in electric bill, and not one CFL we’ve had lasting more than a year, if that). Now I might continue that conversation a little longer but I’m still not sure of the improvement to the environment if the CFLs aren’t lasting long enough to make a difference in the long run anyway.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Elizabeth-Hobbs/100003042251514 Elizabeth Hobbs

    I have found the CFL’s we have (purchased on their equivalence, like equivalent to 75W, 100W or whatever) didn’t seem to actually put out that much light, even in our reading lamp that is on for hours at a time. I have a recessed fixture over my desk. When the spot-light bulb burned out we replaced it with an LED. It’s been on for hours now & is barely warm to the touch, I love the quality of the light, & it works with the dimmer switch with no problems. The CFL’s we put in our ceiling fans also don’t play nice with our fans. Even with the switch off they still flicker. Talk about giving you a headache!

  • Janet

    When I lived off-grid (on solar electricity only) CFLs were the only rational choice. I was eager to use them because we were in serious “green” mode. To my disappointment I spent the whole time pining for incandescents because the light always seemed “off” in ways I have trouble describing. We still have some of the old CFLs that put off greenish light – I think these could last as long as advertised. However, the newer ones that give better-colored light have shorter lives. 100-watt-equivalent CFLs do the best job of mimicking incandescents when used in place of 60 watt bulbs, especially in multiples.

    My limited experience with LEDs is that the light color is creepy.

    At Home Depot I saw some 60-watt bulbs by Phillips that look like incandescents and are marked “28% more efficient”. What are these? Has anyone tried the new Plumen CFL from Europe?

    I am hoarding, big-time, planning to use incandescents in at about 60% of the house. Most of the CFLs go in the basement but they are tempered by a few incandescents. That seems to cut down on the fluorescent side effects.

    • http://twitter.com/kitchenstew Katie Kimball

      I’m not sure what those “more efficient” lights are – probably just a legal incandescent! ;) Katie

      • Tiquose

        I bought a couple. They are halogens inside an incandescent-like bulbs. The light they give off is quite white, not bad for some applications.

  • Tiquose

    When I lived off-grid (on solar electricity only) CFLs were the only rational choice. I was eager to use them because we were in serious “green” mode. To my disappointment I spent the whole time pining for incandescents because the light always seemed “off” in ways I have trouble describing. We still have some of the old CFLs that put off greenish light – I think these could last as long as advertised. However, the newer ones that give better-colored light have shorter lives. 100-watt-equivalent CFLs do the best job of mimicking incandescents when used in place of 60 watt bulbs, especially in multiples.

    My limited experience with LEDs is that the light color is creepy.

    At Home Depot I saw some 60-watt bulbs by Phillips that look like incandescents and are marked “28% more efficient”. What are these? Has anyone tried the new Plumen CFL from Europe?

    I am hoarding, big-time, planning to use incandescents in at about 60% of the house. Most of the CFLs go in the basement but they are tempered by a few incandescents. That seems to cut down on the fluorescent side effects.

  • Laura

    We started stockpiling the older style bulbs about a year ago.  We have several hundred in the basement now. :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/mom2mykiddos Karen Kelly Sunderland

    I agree with the comments above but I haven’t seen anyone mention the one that concerns me most: SAFETY! We installed CFLs when we built our home and promptly had to change out the bulbs over the stairs and on our front porch! If someone came to the door, we could turn on the lights and not be able to see them until the lights “warmed up.” (We live in Montana.) Stairs, hallways & bathrooms at night, etc… are a problem when the light is dim until it heats up. 

    Having installed every light in the home brand new, we replaced most CFLs several times over before replacing the incandescent lights. And, yes, with three small boys we had broken bulbs to deal with twice. Now, we don’t use CFLs at all. I don’t know what will win us back.

    • Russ

      HOARDING DOWN-UNDER
      I find the pure math done fascinating because if correct then they do indeed only work out at twice as to cheap to run, not the 3 -7 times as claimed.  In Australia we passed similar legislation phasing out incandescent bulbs, however only the high wattage ones.  We can still buy 15, 25, 40 & 60 watt bulbs.  I think what’s also overlooked is the plant & equipment needed to make CFLs has to be built & the nett carbon cost of all this re-fitting & construction has to be factored in. Incandescent bulbs on the other hand have been made in local factories for over 100 years. There is very little to up-date/re-fit & apart from incorporating the inclusion of heat-resistive plastics, the incandescent bulb hasn’t changed much in that same time! Has anyone factored in all the extra packaging of CFLs? Plastic blister-packs & fancy printing inks?  Incandescent bulbs used to come in corrugated cardboard cylinders with minimal printing that could be COMPOSTED IN THE GARDEN! Local companies providing local jobs & very little freight & transport was incurred.  Now how much diesel fuel is burnt freighting them over the seas from China & elsewhere?  I refuse to buy CFLs AND YES, am hoarding incandescents too!Russ
      East Coast AUSTRALIA

  • http://thefisherlady.blogspot.com/ thefisherlady

    I have a tin of candles in need be :)

    • http://lifeyourway.net Mandi @ Life…Your Way

      LOL!

  • Emily @Randomrecycling

    I’m all for using things that are more efficient, but I agree that the CFL’s may not fit the bill.  I have been using some fancy CFL’s for my bathroom sconces and they burn out in about 2 years time. Maybe it’s because they don’t warm up fully since we are in and out of the bathroom fairly quickly.  Either way, I don’t feel great about spending money on the expensive bulbs.  I wish there was a happy middle, the old-school bulbs with the nice lighting and the efficiency of the CFL.

  • Kyle and Jessica Winter

    I find this topic to be such bother with no clear answers. Thanks for taking it on, I really appreciate your well written and thoughtful post. I personally can vouch that the fluorescent bulbs we put in the can fixtures in our kitchen don’t even last a year, it seems like we are always replacing them – but the halogen alternative wasn’t any better and was more expensive. Also, thank you for the food for thought on my preschooler’s bedroom lamp. Thank the good Lord her bulb hasn’t broken yet, but she’s always knocking that thing over. Tomorrow’s mission – find an old incandescent somewhere in the house for her room. Thanks again!

  • Hunter

    Thanks for the great post! I would add that the strain from CFLsfor people wih light sensitivities shouldn’t be overlooked. I personally get migraines from exposure to fluorescent lighting, and for people with certain seizure problems (like one of my good friends) sitting in a room with fluorescents is impossible (and incandescents are best).
    There are other options, I know, but I’m still concerned from this side of the issue.

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  • Anonymous

    What politicians chose not to say…

    As seen from ceolas net website, with link references:

    1    Replacement savings might be alright for the main lights
    But US households have 45 lighting points on average
    No “big savings” with upfront expensive lights in rarely used lamps.
    Add in, any  broken or lost or “dud” bulbs…

    2.  Incandescent 95% heat release  not necessarily a waste, proven to save room heating costs.
    When it’s dark its often cold, and use with air conditioning cooling
    is of course optional
    - – Conversely always “ignored” that CFLs DO waste 80% and LEDs 70% as
    heat, moreover increasing the FIRE risk with CFLs, as described and referenced.

    3. The so-called “power factor” (not the same as power
    rating) of ordinary “energy saving” (CFL) fluorescent bulbs means that they use TWICE the energy at the power plant than do ordinary incandescent bulbs, compared to what your meter says.
    above website with references, – including  Osram/Sylvania factsheet admission

    Many LEDs, for domestic users, also have power factor issues.
    Electricity consumers of course eventually have to pay for this
    “hidden cost” in higher bills.

    4. Conversely:
    With any electricity saving the electricity companies make less money,
    and they simply raise the electricity bills, or receive tax payer
    subsidies (out of citizens pockets) to compensate
    Already happening in California, Ohio and other US states, the UK etc, as described and referenced

    Heads they win…tails we lose

  • Tia Nielsen

    I’ve just begun to search for information about the spectrum of light that emits from different types of lighting: LED, CFL’s and incandescent. The human eye needs certain amounts of the color spectrum, such as found in natural light, to operate effectively. What our eyes see also seems to affect mood. (Think of those struggling with seasonal affective disorder due to low winter light.) I did not read all 51 comments, so my apologies if this was discussed: Has anyone come across research on the effects of the color spectrum in light?

    • http://twitter.com/kitchenstew Katie Kimball

      Tia,
      Other than anecdotes like those in the comments, I haven’t really looked into it – sorry! I’m sure there’s something to be said there, though… :) Katie

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